10 US Sailors 2 Boats Detained by Iran

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  1. Falcon

    Falcon Lieutenant Colonel Staff Member Social Media Team

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    If we assume that our soldiers followed the Military's code of conduct then I think it is safe to say that they got the order to surrender.

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    After Russia-Turkey SU-24 incident I realized that rules of engagements means everything. Very likely that Iranians had more aggressive and proactive ROE, Americans had non provocative, cautious ROE resulting in this event. Commanders authorized by civilian government maybe told soldiers to surrender to avoid bigger incident. They do not want all work on Nuclear Agreement to go to trash.

    I think it is sad that the soldiers had to go through this, that is worst feeling for a soldier to surrender

     
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    Im not buying that,there is another game played here,no way two boats can have engine fail
    A new Hollywood movie,staring the US and Iran,produced by the US and Iran?
     
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    You mean we were upto something with the Iranians? Could this be why the incident was not seen as a big deal by our leaders?
     
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    Yup,normally when something like this happens,its world news(days long discussion on US and European news channels).
    I think,

    The US changed priorities in the ME,taking a turn from the GCC to Iran,i bet the sanctions against them will disappear sooner then we think.
    This was just a show,to better Irans image for the US/European public.
    They will probably go for the Iran,Iraq,Syria pipeline,pressured by the US/European oil giants(which would open the Iranian oil market for them) and the risk of losing Iran for good to China.
    You could ask,''what about Israel?''
    Israel could already have made a deal with Iran with help from the US to keep the status quo,i mean really,how many times has Israel threatened to bomb Iran?
    Almost a ''million'' times in a ''million years'',not for show?(Nethanyahu would have won the elections either way,with or without threatening Iran)
    You could also ask,''and what about Turkiye?''
    Well,lets sum it up,

    Iran,Iraq,Syria pipeline,via Cyprus,Greece or a direct line to Italy(Europe satisfied?)
    Israeli pipeline to Turkiye(the assurance for Turkiye,no more dependence on Russia for gas),for internal and transit to Europe via Greece etc.

    The biggest loser would be Russia,not immediatly but slowly,it would mean the end for Putin in a couple of years.
    And the Arabs?
    Well,if you dont act when needed,you will lose,the Arabs could have prevented all this,just by attacking Assad.
    This is my personal opinion.
     
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    Interesting perspective.
     
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    6 Turkish Coast Guard vessels, aircraft come to rescue of grounded Greek counterparts

    The Turkish Coast Guard came to the rescue of their Greek counterparts when a Greek Coast Guard vessel became grounded, military sources in Turkey said Saturday.

    The Greek ship ran into trouble in Turkish waters off the western province of Aydın at around midnight on Friday night.

    http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/20...come-to-rescue-of-grounded-greek-counterparts

    Iran could have just helped the sailors and let them go just as the Turkish Coast Guard did with the Greeks.
     
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    January 18, 2016
    RELEASE # 20160118-03
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    U.S. Central Command Statement on Events Surrounding Iranian Detainment of 10 U.S. Navy Sailors on Jan. 12-13, 2016

    TAMPA, Fla. - The following preliminary timeline of the events surrounding the Iranian detainment of 10 U.S. Navy Sailors from January 12-13, 2016, is based upon multiple operational reports received by U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) in the first 24-48 hours after the incident. A Navy command investigation initiated on Jan. 14, will provide a more complete accounting of events.

    On Jan. 12, two NAVCENT Riverine Command Boat (RCB) crews were tasked with the mission of relocating two RCBs from Kuwait to Bahrain, with a planned refueling en route alongside the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Monomoy. The two RCBs were traveling together since they train and deploy in two-boat elements. They departed Kuwait at 9:23 a.m. (GMT). The planned transit path for the mission was down the middle of the Gulf and not through the territorial waters of any country other than Kuwait and Bahrain.

    The two RCBs were scheduled to conduct an underway refueling with the USCGC Monomoy in international waters at approximately 2 p.m. (GMT). At approximately 2:10 p.m. (GMT) NAVCENT received a report that the RCBs were being queried by Iranians. At approximately 2:29 p.m. (GMT) NAVCENT was advised of degraded communications with the RCBs. At 2:45 p.m. (GMT) NAVCENT was notified of a total loss of communications with the RCBs. Immediately, NAVCENT initiated an intensive search and rescue operation using both air and naval assets including aircraft from USS Harry S. Truman and the U.S. Air Force, and U.S. Coast Guard, U.K. Royal Navy and U.S. Navy surface vessels. At the time of the incident, two carrier strike groups were operating nearby. USS Harry S. Truman carrier strike group was 45 miles southeast of Farsi Island and Charles de Gaulle carrier strike group was 40 miles north of Farsi Island. NAVCENT attempted to contact Iranian military units operating near Farsi Island by broadcasting information regarding their search and rescue effort over marine radio, and separately notified Iranian coast guard units via telephone about the search for their personnel. At 6:15 p.m. (GMT), U.S. Navy cruiser USS Anzio received a communication from the Iranians that the RCB Sailors were in Iranian custody and were "safe and healthy."

    NAVCENT's initial operational reports showed that while in transit from Kuwait to Bahrain the RCBs deviated from their planned course on their way to the refueling. The command investigation will determine what caused the change in course and why the RCBs entered into Iranian territorial waters in the vicinity of Farsi Island.

    At some point one RCB had indications of a mechanical issue in a diesel engine which caused the crews to stop the RCBs and begin troubleshooting. As the RCBs travel together, the second RCB also stopped. This stop occurred in Iranian territorial waters, although it's not clear the crew was aware of their exact location. While the RCBs were stopped and the crew was attempting to evaluate the mechanical issue, Iranian boats approached the vessels.

    Based upon initial operational reports, the first boats on scene were two small craft with armed personnel on board. Soon after, two more Iranian military vessels arrived on scene also with armed personnel on board.

    Initial operational reports indicate there was a verbal exchange between the Sailors and the Iranians but no exchange of gun fire. Armed Iranian military personnel then boarded the RCBs, while other Iranian personnel aboard the Iranian vessels conducted armed over-watch of the boats with mounted machine guns. At gunpoint, the RCBs were escorted to a small port facility on Farsi Island where the U.S. Sailors disembarked and were detained for approximately 15 hours. At this point there are no indications that the Sailors were physically harmed during their detainment. The Navy command investigation will focus on the Sailors' treatment while in Iranian custody, including any interrogation by Iranian personnel. All indications are that the RCB crews were detained by Iranian military personnel operating from Farsi Island.

    The Sailors departed Farsi Island at 8:43 a.m. (GMT) Jan. 13, aboard the two RCBs. The Sailors were later transferred ashore by U.S. Navy aircraft from the cruiser USS Anzio and the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman. Other Sailors took charge of the RCBs and continued transiting toward Bahrain, the boats' original destination. The RCBs arrived in Bahrain at 10:38 p.m. (GMT) Jan. 13.

    A post-recovery inventory of the boats found that all weapons, ammunition and communication gear are accounted for minus two SIM cards that appear to have been removed from two handheld satellite phones.

    The Sailors are in good health and continue to go through the reintegration process. The Navy command investigation continues and more details will be provided when it is completed.
     
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    Ten US Navy Sailors Detained by Iran Return to the United States

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    SAN DIEGO (NNS) -- The 10 U.S. Navy Sailors assigned to Coastal Riverine Squadron 3 who were briefly detained by Iran Jan 12-13, returned to their homeport in San Diego last night.

    All of the Sailors are in good health and each will complete the final phase of reintegration. During this phase, which can last several days, Sailors reunite with their families, continue debriefings, and receive any ongoing medical care and support as necessary.

    "Our Sailors are being reintegrated with dignity and professionalism," said Rear Adm. Frank Morneau, Commander Navy Expeditionary Combat Command. "My top priority is the health, welfare and well-being of our Shipmates as they return to duty."

    The three-phased reintegration process began in theater immediately following their release, Jan. 13. The focus of Phase I of the reintegration process was to ensure the immediate health and safety of the Sailors. During the second phase of the reintegration process, individuals completed a medical exam and critical decompression, which included mental and physical coping strategies that will enable them to return to duty. The final and third phase commenced when the Sailors reunited with families, while ongoing medical evaluations and various levels of support are provided.

    A Navy command investigation, initiated Jan. 14, is ongoing.

    http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=92800
     
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    Falcon Lieutenant Colonel Staff Member Social Media Team

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    A national humiliation. |Sour| Ain't nothin else to say.

    I want to hear what the sailors say about this after they retire. Hopefully one of them writes a book on this catastrophe. |Writing|
     
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