Aggressor Squadrons May be Replaced by Contractors

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  1. Falcon

    Falcon Lieutenant Colonel Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Pentagon Turning to Private ‘Bad Guys’ to Dogfight US Fighter Pilots
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    Facing a shortage of pilots, dollars, and training time, the Pentagon wants private pilots and fighter jets to play the bad guys during dogfighting and other drills with military pilots.

    While contractors have long been used in various kinds of military training, top Defense Department officials believe this new role could free up uniformed pilots to fly in combat squadrons.

    “That is something that is actively under consideration,” Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James said Tuesday at a Defense Oneleadership briefing. “We have to see how the dollars and cents work out.”

    The military uses “aggressor squadrons,” like the one commanded by “Viper” and “Jester” in the 1980s film “Top Gun,” to simulate enemy tactics. Sometimes they even fly enemy aircraft. During the Cold War, the Air Force actually got its hands on Soviet MiG-17, MiG-21 and MiG-23 fighters, secretly flying them from a remote air force base in the Nevada desert.

    For adversary training today, the Air Force uses T-38 Talons, jets that date back to the 1960s. It also operates aggressor squadrons of F-16s at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada and Eielson Air Force Base in Alaska. Those jets, painted in blue, brown or black camouflage, fly against American combat pilots in high-end war games. In 2006, Gen. T. Michael Moseley, the Air Force chief of staff, added F-15 Eagles to the aggressor wing at Nellis, but that unit was deactivated in 2014.

    But fying and maintaining high-end aggressors, like the F-15 and F-16, is expensive and removes pilots from combat squadrons, according to defense executives.

    Now the military is considering companies to fill that void. “It is a training approach that could well work,” James said.

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    I always wondered why does the USA paint some of their jets based on Russian camo schemes?
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    Because your'e the biggest aerial threat to the US Air Force. :spinningdevil:

    We have some ex soviet aircraft in our inventory including MI-24's, MI-8's and some older Migs. An american company also got an Su-27 from Ukraine.

    http://su-27flanker.com/2014/12/05/american-flankers/#

    Watch the first few minutes, you can see Russian heli's in use during our exercises.



    Huey painted as a Russian chopper:

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    The Aggressor Squadrons are there to train US pilots on how to fight foreign enemies using aircraft that mimic the performance of those in adversarial Air Forces and using tactics those Air Force's possess.

    The F-5 was used to simulate the MiG-29, because their performance closely resembled one another:

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    Earlier the A-4 was used to mimic the MiG-17:

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    To day its the F-16 for the USAF and Marine Corp and F-16 and F/A-18 for the USN:

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    The F-15 Aggressor Squadrons, which were used to mimic the SU-27 and its derivatives, was deactivated.

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    Given that both Russia, China and other potential adversaries like North Korea and Iran use Russian types, standing up the F-15 squadrons once again should be a priority.

    Here's the answer, Zaslon;

    They are painted like Russian aircraft because they are used by US Aggressor Squadrons to mimic Russian aircraft like the MiG-29 or SU-27 and the tactics used by nations like China and Russia.

    To complete the effect, they are painted to match the aircraft they are mimicking.
     
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