Are Large Naval Vessels Obsolete?

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  1. Falcon

    Falcon Major Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Destroyers, Cruisers, and Super Carriers cost of 10's of millions of dollars to build maintain and man. These ships carry a huge amount of firepower and capabilities including long range cruise missiles, massive radars, and air craft. Sounds cool does't it? In all of the video games we have played, in all of the shows we watch the thing that has the most firepower is the seen as the best piece of equipment one can have. But is this actually the case?

    Countries that have relatively small budgets or countries that can not afford to build massive ships like ours in large quantities are investing in advanced anti ship missiles, even ballistic missiles that are meant to take out super carriers. These missiles can all be researched, built, and deployed with relative low cost and can read havoc on any naval force. When we face threats such as these is it logical to pour billions into super ships?
     
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    The Falklands war showed how deadly they can be but at the time the Argentinians didn't have the best anti ship missiles. Imagine what would have happened to the British Operation in the Falklands if the Argentinians had more advanced weapons.
     
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    @AMDR enlightened us on the Navy's new Distributed lethality which is designed to defeat the exact threat you are talking about @Falcon. If all programs continue as planned and we stop getting hit with budget cuts we should be well prepared to deal with the anti ship missiles, cruise missile, and anti ship ballistic missile threats.

    When it comes to having large ships vs smaller and medium sized ships I somewhat agree with you but at the same time we do need some big destroyers because they provide alot of firepower, both defensive and offensive. I do however like the idea of having more frigates, its kind of like diversifying your financial portfolio.
     
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    That is definitely the grand slam question the Navy is dealing with with right now.

    If we can adapt quickly to the proliferation of AShMs and do it in an inexpensive way, I think we will be alright. Thankfully the Navy is investing into two major programs that are going to deal with swarms of anti-ship missiles at an insanely low cost. They are probably the two most important emerging weapon systems in the entire US Military; the EM Railgun and Laser Weapon systems.

    Both cost a small fraction of what a traditional interceptor costs to shoot down a missile. The problem is power. Those weapon systems take up a huge amount of power on the ships, the Railgun more so than the Lasers. That's why the Zumwalt will be the first to receive the railgun, it has a enormous amount of excess power.
    http://www.militarytimes.com/story/...ers-railgun-zumwalt-class-destroyer/80374120/

    When we cut steel on the lead ship of the Arleigh-Burke replacement class in 2028, you will see both of these weapons on there. It is a necessity for survival as you pointed out. The backfits to existing ships will probably start around 2025.
     
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    Falcon Major Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Yup the future us rail guns and laser. With our current technology we need huge ships. It would be awesome if we could figure out a way to generate power the lasers and rail gun with hydro power.
     
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    Arms technology evolves, as well as designs of weapons, ships, etc. It may come to the point where some aspects of surface warships are combined with some aspects of submarines, creating an entirely new type of vessels.

    Though the future may see fewer large ships the size of aircraft carriers, it may not be entirely obsolete, as long as the right defensive countermeasures and weapons are mounted.
     
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