China and the SCS ADIZ plans

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  1. Cossack25A1

    Cossack25A1 1st Lieutenant

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    China defends its right to set up air defense identification zone
    by People's Daily
    April 2, 2016


    China’s Defense Ministry is expressing frustration at speculation it will declare an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) in the South China Sea.

    Spokesperson Yang Yujun says if an ADIZ is established in the South China Sea, it is within China’s right to do so.

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    Chinese Defense Ministry Spokesperson Yang Yujun reacts at a regular briefing in Beijing on Thursday, March 31, 2016. [Photo: mod.gov.cn]

    “We have stated our position on this many times when it comes to the establishment of an Air Defense Identification Zone in the South China Sea. What needs to be reiterated is that sovereign states have the right to set up an ADIZ. This is why there is no need for other countries to gesticulate.”
    The comments come a day after a US Defense Department official went on-record saying the US will not recognize such a zone in the South China Sea.

    China imposed an ADIZ over the East China Sea three years ago, requiring aircraft flying through the area to identify themselves.

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    Read more at http://www.mb.com.ph/china-defends-...ense-identification-zone/#gIdwaikuIW6U3ZfD.99
     
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    Falcon Major Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Until they shoot down a plane violating their air space then this means nothing.
     
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    Sven Teh Viking dood Industry Professional Ret. Military

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    China by all means has the right to set up an ADIZ, even over these disputed islands, and the US and other nations in the region have as much right to ignore it and force China to defend its "sovereignty" or shut up and lose legitimacy at home. All sea-touching nations have these, the US even has them around it's aircraft carriers - and it claims sovereignty with them as well, which isn't protected by international laws either.

    It's concerning, China's further cementing its defacto ownership over its claims in the SCS, but an ADIZ isn't a no-fly zone, it can be and will be ignored.

    Plus if China's stupid enough to actually "light up" an aircraft with fire control radar's, for anti-ship or anti-aircraft missiles, the US and regional nations will have a great amount of intelligence to gather. China can't really enforce an ADIZ without scrambling aircraft, which is costly.

    The region will simply ignore this most recent ADIZ like they've ignored the rest of China's bolstering.
     
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    Cossack25A1 1st Lieutenant

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    I found this article in "that" forum, but the OP is an @$$.

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    Pentagon trying to stop Chinese air defense zone in disputed sea: Gertz
    BY BILL GERTZ on APRIL 5, 2016 in BILL GERTZ, CHINA, INDONESIA, JAPAN,SOUTHEAST ASIA, THE CHINA CHALLENGE

    Amid signs China will soon impose an air exclusion zone over the South China Sea, the Pentagon is trying to head off another destabilizing action by Beijing in the increasingly tense region.

    Deputy Defense Secretary Robert Work last week made clear the United States would not recognize China’s imposition of an air defense identification zone over the sea.

    “We will not recognize the ADIZ in the South China Sea,” Work told the Washington Post.

    The deputy defense secretary noted that a similar Chinese strategic move in the nearby East China Sea also remains unrecognized by the United States.

    Of plans for the creation of a new ADIZ in the South China Sea, Work said such a declaration “does not have a basis in international law and we’ve said over and over we will fly, sail and go wherever international law allows.”

    Pentagon officials said there are troubling indicators the Chinese are planning to impose a new ADIZ in a region where Beijing’s military has reclaimed some 3,200 acres of disputed islands and has begin adding missiles – both air defense and recently anti-ship missiles – to Woody Island, in the Paracels chain.

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    http://atimes.com/2016/04/pentagon-trying-to-stop-chinese-air-defense-zone-in-disputed-sea-gertz/
     
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    Technofox That Norwegian girl Staff Member Ret. Military Developer

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    Isn't that the ADIZ the US flew B-52s through?

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    If that's the case, hard to image the US is going to honor China's newly proposed ADIZ in the SCS either.

    Also, any word from regional nations or Japan on their stance? I think Japan is ignoring China's ADIZ around the Senkaku Islands, alongside the US and maybe South Korea(?).

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    Side note: Is there an anti-ship missile in the B-52's arsenal? And does it have the hardware and avionics needed for targeting?

    They've flown with the Harpoon in the past:

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    Can't say I've seen one grace a B-52 in recent times.

    Or is this a capability found only on the B-1B:

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    *Yes I know it's a JASSM. But the B-1B is going to have the LRASM, which is a derivative of the JASSM.
     
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    Falcon Major Staff Member Social Media Team

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    I only know of the harpoon, only talk and brainstorming on equipping it with anti ship missiles.
     
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