Commandant approves M4 as standard rifle for Marine Corps infantry

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  1. AMDR

    AMDR Captain Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 7, 2015
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    Commandant approves M4 as standard rifle for Marine Corps infantry


    (Photo: Sgt. Chris Stone/Marine Corps)

    MARINE CORPS BASE QUANTICO, Va. — It's official — the M4 carbine has replaced the M16A4 as the universal rifle of Marine Corps infantry.

    Commandant Gen. Robert Neller has signed off on the switch making the M4 the primary weapon for all infantry battalions, security forces and supporting schools no later than the end of September 2016, according to an internal memo released by Lt. Gen. Ronald Bailey, deputy commandant for Plans, Policies and Operations via the Automated Message Handling System.

    The recommendation was first made over the summer to then-commandant Gen. Joseph Dunford, and its final approval was one of Neller's first orders of business after succeeding Dunford Sep. 24, according to Marine Corps officials.

    "We made the proposal, and we just got the head nod from the commandant," said Chris Woodburn, a retired lieutenant colonel who now serves as the deputy Maneuver Branch head for the Fires and Maneuver Integration Division of Marine Corps Combat Development Command. "We get improved capability at no cost, a smaller and more compact rifle that shoots better for infantry."

    As a shorter rifle than the M16A4, the formal adoption of the M4 means increased capability and mobility across the force as the Corps looks to modernize in a resource-constrained environment.

    The switch comes after extensive testing — and combat experience — demonstrated the M4 outperformed the M16A4 across the board, according to Marine Corps officials.

    "We found out that the M4 actually outshoots the A4 at all ranges out to 600 meters with the new ammunition," Woodburn said, referring to the 5.56mm AB49 Special Operations Science and Technology cartridge the Corps is looking to make the standard.

    At least half the force already has the M4 as a personal weapon already, which means the conversion will come at no cost to American taxpayers, save that of transporting the rifles.

    The redistribution, Woodburn said, will occur in two phases.

    First, each of the Marine expeditionary forces will redistribute M4s across their armories and ship excess rifles to Marine Corps Logistics Command, along with their rifle combat optics.

    Any unit which is short M4s per its table of organization and equipment will then apply to LOGCOM to make up the difference.

    "It's important to emphasize that no one who rates an M4 by TO is going to lose an M4," Woodburn said. "These are excess M4s that are already in units, and we have an amount at LOGCOM already."

    The goal, Woodburn said, is to have the first phase complete by the end of third quarter of fiscal 2016, and the total redistribution accomplished by the end of the fiscal year.

    Exceptions, he noted, will be for those units either getting ready to deploy or returning from deployment.
  2. Falcon

    Falcon Lieutenant Colonel Staff Member Social Media Team

    Oct 10, 2015
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    What do you all think about the marines using a 5.56 rifle? Is the cartridge good enough to handle the threats facing our infantry? How does that weak cartridge perform in urban combat when the enemy is hiding behind brick and concrete? Does it provide enough range in open terrain?

    Imo it isn't good enough for what we need. I think a 7.62 rifle is the way to go.The 7.62 cartridge is used throughout the military in sniper rifles and light machine guns. If the average infantry man had a rifle that used the 7.62 we would have a bonus when it comes to logistics.

    "A report which asserted that 50 percent of Army engagements in Afghanistan occur with the enemy attacking at 300 meters or beyond, while more than 80 percent of soldiers in an infantry company are equipped with weapons that can’t touch the enemy beyond that range."

    I learned in video games that the M16-A4 had longer range that the M4. Something in the article is off. LOL
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  3. Atilla

    Atilla Major

    Oct 25, 2015
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    The Turkish Military opted for a 7.62 rifle instead of a 5.56 which seems to be the trend in the modern world.






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