Did Russia Give Israel Syria's "Air Defense Codes"

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  1. Pathfinder

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    REPORT: IRAN ACCUSES RUSSIA OF GIVING ISRAEL CODES FOR SYRIAN AIR DEFENSES

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    Iran has accused Russia of giving the codes for Syria's anti-aircraft missiles to Israel, a senior official in the engineering department of Iran's Defense Department told the Kuwaiti daily Al-Jarida on Monday.

    According to the report, much remains unknown about Israel's attack on a Hezbollah weapons convoy and the Syrian response to the Israeli fighter jets early Friday morning. Israel has reportedly attacked dozens of times in Syrian territory since Hezbollah joined the Syrian civil war in 2012, but Friday marked the first time that an anti-aircraft missile had been fired at an IAF jet.

    Al-Jarida's Tehran correspondent, Farzad Qassemi, cited a source in the Iranian Defense Ministry as saying that Iranian experts had changed the operation codes for the Syrian air defense system, which is what enabled the anti-aircraft missiles to be used against the Israeli Air Force on Friday morning.

    According to the source, Damascus and Tehran "were shocked" every time the Russian-made air defense system did not work to defend Syria's airspace, or even give notification that the air space had been penetrated in order to evacuate outposts prior to the airstrike. The systems are supposed to identify the takeoff of Israeli Air Force jets from their bases because of the small distance between the countries and is even supposed to attempt to target the planes and any missiles that are fired from them.

    Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...g-Israel-codes-for-Syrian-air-defenses-484777
     
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    Israel's electronic warfare support capabilities are among, if not the most potent in not only the region, but the world. They'd have little problem against vintage S-200 systems, as was suspected as being fired as Israeli jets as they egressed from Syria, as well as one that was reported to have gone ballistic after losing its target, which was reported to have been intercepted by Arrow 3.

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    The Gulfstream 550 is one such platform configured for stand-off electronic warfare support.

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    F-16Is regularly train for SEAD/DEAD missions and have been shown in the past to be able to conduct deep-strike missions against a fortified and integrated air defense network.

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    Nothing about this incident hints at Russian collusion. Israel has been developing the necessary capabilities to defeat modern air-defense networks for decades and they only continue to improve.
     
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    these last couple IAF strikes have not been on the Syrian military at all but on Hezbollah targets such as taking out ammo depots and HVT (High Value Targets). But it is funny coming from a country that has been aggravated us since we intervened, the only thing we seem to agree on is the Syrian Govt. is an ally.
     
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    The Israelis have mastered the deep strike. They have alot of advanced technology and more importantly doctrine. They have access to Soviet era technology that they captured over the decades and have access to newer Russian equipment used by some of their friends like Cyprus and Azerbaijan. Expect more strikes when they get the F-35 in full action.

    Does anyone know if Syria has the S-300? There were rumours of deliveries but no confirmation.
     
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    Very true and Greece (having received Cyprian S-300 batteries) is suspected of allowing Israel to train against their systems. Greece doesn't possess the most modern iteration of the S-300 system though, possessing the S-300 PMU1 model. However Azerbaijan does posses the PMU2 variant which according to photos and sources on other fora was delivered to Iran as well.

    The American 507th Aggressor Squadron does possess a handful of Russian origin SAM systems including S-300. Note the four stove pipes behind the SA-6 launcher.

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    Outside of the actual batteries systems like the American Joint Threat Emitter, an electronic mimic, can be used to train against the kinematics of various known and suspected missile systems without having to have access to the missile system itself.

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    Electronic mimics like the JTE have been putting the F-35 through its paces at Red Flag.

    The Israelis would have access to American SAM mimics during Red Flag and other joint exercises, but also likely have their own offings.

    No doubt they've been training for missions pitting them up against advanced Russian and Chinese SAMs, as well as Iranian derivatives and versions like Bavar 373.

    To date only the Russians are known to have deployed S-300 within Syria. The Syrians are rumored to have received the system, but no concrete information supports that theory.
     
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    @Falcon, rumors claim that Syria has missiles for S-300 systems but no launcher. If i remember the deal was going to happen in 2010, with them acquiring the PMU2 variant (a step below the S-400). Though just last year we deployed 6 S-300V4 systems to our naval facility in Tartus.
     
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