Falklands' right to self determination reaffirmed in UK's defense and security review

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  1. Patriot1776

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    The review was presented to Parliament earlier this week by Prime Minister David Cameron The specific section on Overseas Territories says UK will continue to work closely with the Falkland Islanders to defend their right to self determination, faced with an unjustified claim of ownership from Argentina.

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    The Falklanders chose to be British, they had a referendum and they made their decision. I don't expect Argentina to play the Falklands card now that Kirchner is out of office and a more sensible leader is taking the helm, but in case they do, the UK is always ready.

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    The Argentinians can still take the islands back by force, all they have to do is get their finances inline and then begin to seriously develop their military. By acquiring long range cruise missiles, an effective submarine force, long range anti ship missiles, and by improving the capabilities of their marines it is definitely doable. These can all be acquired from countries like China, Iran etc.

    The British should try to do everything possible to weaken the Argentinian economy and to create political instability if they are not doing so already. This is the best way for them to deal with the threat from Argentina because right now the Argentinian military is in very bad shape and requires a large amount of acquisitions to get back on its feet and the only way to do that is with a stable economy.
     
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    I'd argue that doing this will increase the threat to the UK as Argentina, whether it can mount a significant threat or not, will increasingly devolve into nationalistic vitriol and increase its charged stance on the Falklands issue. The Falklands have significant oil (or gas) reserve, and with the Argentine economy not doing so well, this was a convenient card to play against an "imperial power" that's stealing Argentina wealth. But as their economy improves and Argentina and the rest of the world re-approach, the necessity and resources the Falkland's process will become less important and relevant.

    This dynamic could play out similar to the decades Iran has spent in relative isolation. As they where being economically, technologically, militarily and politically suppressed their actions and rhetoric became increasingly aggressive. But as the nuclear deal fell into place and the US, Europe and even Russia, with whom Iran didn't always enjoy the best relations, became more interested in bringing Iran's saga to a conclusion, and sensing good investment opportunities, Iran has cooled its behavior towards those that opposed it due to its nuclear program. Other division still bubble between Iran and the Gulf nations though.

    Rather than suppress Argentina and risk it becoming an Iran in the South, devolving further into aggression and feeding the "imperialist" narrative that's prevalent in South America, I'd invite and encourage the UK to invest in Argentina to make the Falklands issue less and less important from an economic perspective and less applicable as a scapegoat or distraction should Argentina once again find itself in dire straights.

    This is a map of the estimated natural resources of the Falkland Islands, courtesy of The Economist:
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    And one of the current resource exploitation:
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    I see where you are coming from but the way I see it is that even if they become highly nationalistic and want to attack they stand no chance of winning based on the current state of their armed forces. If Britain allows them to prosper then they will upgrade their forces. Next time they are in a crisis or something and want to attack they can do so with new gear whereas if Britain had kept them weak and unstable they could have never acquired the gear in the first place.

    Instability can be created and so can an economic crisis. Social media + disinformation can bring thousands on the streets and economic pressures can be applied, justifications for this can be fabricated.
     
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