French Navy Creates a Seventh "Commando Marine" / Special Forces Unit Named "Ponchardier"

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  1. Vergennes

    Vergennes Captain Staff Member Ret. Military International Mod

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    The French Ministry of Defence announced that defence minister Le Drian will lead the inauguration ceremony for the creation of a new "Commando Marine" (Navy Commando) unit on September 11 2015. According to the French Navy, this new special forces unit will be specialized in special operations support. In other words it will be some kind of "logistics" commando.

    This new elite unit was created on September 1st this year and is named after Vice Admiral Pierre Ponchardier (1909-1961) , commanding officer of aircraft carrier La Fayette and vice Chief of Navy Staff. He distinguished himself during the Second World War in service of the nation by creating with his brother the resistance network "Sosie".

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    The French Naval Infantry and Commandos Marine units are under command of the Force maritime des fusiliers marins et commandos (FORFUSCO). During operations, Commandos Marine are coordinated by the Commandement des Opérations Spéciales (COS or Special Operations Command).

    The new "Commando Ponchardier" will join 6 existing Commandos Marine all based in Lorient, Brittany (except for one based in Toulon, Southern France):

    Commando Jaubert & Commando Trepel: Specialized in counterterrorism, release of hostages,close quarters combat, assault at sea and land.
    Commando de Montfort & Commando de Penfentenyo: Specialized in reconnaissance, intelligence, neutralization and JATC (joint terminal attack controller).
    Commando Hubert: Combat divers unit specializing in underwater operations, counterterrorism & release of hostages. (It is the only Commando based in Toulon)
    Commando Kieffer: Commands (C3I) special forces groups in the field and implements specialized support cells such as K9, CBRN, UAVs...

    While FORFUSCO consists in a 2,500-man strong force today (approximately), Navy Recognition understands that this force will be strengthened with another 1,000 sailors by the end of 2016. Most of them however will join French naval infantry units (fusiliers marins) specialized in the protection and defence of vessels and key sites of the French Navy on land. With the increased terror threats, the French Government decided to deploy some of these units to secure key public sites on the French territory as well (such as airports, train stations and touristic areas).

    Source--------------> http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?id=3078&option=com_content&task=view
     
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    Given the recent rise in terrorism and French journalists going on safari adventures into Africa risking their lives trying to cover extremists more forces like this are necessary. France doesn't pay ransoms to kidnappers or terrorists except in led. By having more Spec Ops and Commandos this policy is made clear to everyone.

    Most of these guys according to the article will be used for protecting French naval assets on the land but these guys can be used for more than that if needed. Do you know the total number of Commandos or Spec Ops forces Frances has?
     
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    I couldn't find the exact numbers,but we know that the size of the special forces will be increased by nearly 1.000 commandos. (+1000 for the FORFUSCO by the end of this year,so = +2.000).
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    The special forces played a key role in Mali to stop the advance of the armed terrorist groups. (Out of ~4.000 soldiers deployed in Mali,~500 were from the special forces.)
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    The special forces are called to play a bigger role in our future operations,new equipments will be bought,the number of commandos will be increased....
     
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    Now when you guys say commandos do you guys only mean like super elite special operations ass kicking guys or also the better than average troops? I think North Korea has 60 thousand "Commandos".


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    Vergennes Captain Staff Member Ret. Military International Mod

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    You really want to compare this ;

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    To this ?!

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    $%$%
     
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    My friend I'm not comparing. I just wanted to know what your terminology is. In some countries they say Commando for any soldier that is above average and gets more training than usual. I think in France you guys are using the commando term for highly elite units. For example in North Korea probably French Legionnaires would be called Commando's. Probably they are better than the North Koreans best trained troops.
     
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    Just kiddin'!!
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    The term commando is used here to designate (as you said) the men of the elite units of the French armed forces (Like 1st RPIMA,13rd RDP etc.),who get special training and equipment to execute missions out of conventional forces's reach.
     
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