Germany interested in CH-47F or Ch-53K Heavy Lift Choppers

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  1. Falcon

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    Germany to choose between CH-47F and CH-53K for heavy-lift successor

    19 JANUARY, 2016 | BY: DOMINIC PERRY | LONDON

    Germany is moving ahead with an acquisition programme to replace its air force's Sikorsky CH-53 heavy-lift helicopters, with the choice narrowed to two types.

    One key driver for Berlin's effort under the fledgling heavy transport helicopter project is the need to purchase a rotorcraft already in production, rather than launching a clean-sheet development programme.

    Maj Thomas Knäpper, Luftwaffe capability manager in charge of the programme, says only two heavy-lift helicopters effectively meet that requirement: the Boeing CH-47F Chinook and Sikorsky's CH-53K King Stallion – being developed for the US Marine Corps.

    "We want to buy a product already on the market. You could assume that Bell Boeing would come back with the [V-22] Osprey, but it is not as big," he says.

    Germany aims to take delivery of its first new helicopter in 2022, which means contract signature needs to take place in around 2018, says Knäpper.


    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...se-between-chinook-and-ch-53k-for-hea-420964/

    CH-53K

    AIR_CH-53E_Lifts_UH-60_in_Iraq_lg.jpg


    Powerplant and fuel system
    Number of Engines 3
    Engine Type T408-GE-400
    T408 Engine 7,500 shp 5,595 kw
    Performance
    Maximum Gross Weight (Internal Load) 74,000 lbs 33,566 kg
    Maximum Gross Weight (External Load) 88,000 lbs 39,916 kg
    Cruise Speed 141 kts 261 km/h
    Range 460 nm 852 km
    AEO Service Ceiling 14,380 ft 4,383 m
    HIGE Ceiling (MAGW) 13,630 ft 4,155 m
    HOGE Ceiling (MAGW) 10,080 ft 3,073 m
    Accommodations
    Cabin Length 30 ft 9.1 m
    Cabin Width 9 ft 2.7 m
    Cabin Height 6.5 ft 2.0 m
    Cabin Area 270 ft2 24.6 m2
    Cabin Volume 1.755 ft3 9.1 m3

    CH-47F

    AIR_CH-47Ds_Lifting_HMMWVs_lg.jpg


    Rotor Diameter 18.29 m (60 ft)
    Length with Rotors Operating 30.14 m (98 ft, 10.7 in)
    Fuselage 15.46 m (50 ft, 9 in)
    Height 5.68 m (18 ft, 7.8 in)
    Fuselage Width 3.78 m (12 ft, 5 in)
    Fuel Capacity 45,000 lb (20, 411 kg) class 81,000 lb (36, 700 kg) max gross takeoff
    Maximum Speed 302 km/h (170 KTAS)
    Cruise Speed 291 km/h (157 KTAS)
    Mission Radius 200 nm (370.4km)
    Service Ceiling 6,096 m (20,000 ft)
    Max Gross Weight 22,680 kg (50,000 lbs)
    Useful Load 24,000 lbs (10,886 kg)

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  2. Bundeswehr

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    in my opinion we would go for CH-53K since we already operate a CH-53 Variant so we will have experience, but i hope we go for the CH-47F
     
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