I have a question About the US missile attack on Syria.

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  1. Bharwana

    Bharwana 2nd Lieutenant

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    Now cruise missile takes weeks of Programming and US fire the cruise missiles a day after the Chemical attack which US blames were done by Assad Gov. So did US knew that from where the Chemical attacks would be carried out prior the Chemical attacks?

    There is something fishy going on here please help me to understand it.
    This event looks like the WMD of Iraq.
     
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    Syria is under 24/7 surveillance by US satellites, and other assets including submarines, soldiers on the ground and aerial recon assets (drones, electronic warfare support platforms, etc.).

    This is real-time eyes-on-target, so the US would have been able to track what aircraft are taking off from where and to where they are going and returning to. By watching what takes off from where and where they go, the US can assess the mission of the aircraft based on its own assessments, but also media reports and take quick, decisive actions if needed. This is just the nature of real-time intelligence in the US and other advanced militaries.

    While it might seem like prior knowledge, it's actually not. Just the product of constant eyes on an area and corroborating media reports with intelligence data.

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    The US likely knows where Syria's chemical stockpile is, and that Syria didn't relinquish control of their entire stock to the OPCW and Norwegian and Danish controllers during OP RECSYR, and where new chemicals are or can be produced. Various US vehicles (airborne, land, such as HMMWV, and sea assets) are outfitted with materials MASINT equipment - M279 Surface Sampler, Joint Service Lightweight Standoff Chemical Agent Detector, Proengin AP2C, etc. - designed to detect chemical residue, such as that found in IEDs, chemical weapons, or weapon detonations. Similar platforms like the WC-135 Constant Phoenix can detect underground radiological events such as nuclear explosions and track them back to their source.

    Neither Denmark nor Norway, who headed the UN's RECSYR mission, or the OPCW could confirm that Syria had relinquished its entire chemical stockpile. The US, being weary and knowing that new chemicals could be produced using machinery not handed over to the RECSYR mission likely put Syrian assets under watch, in addition to other areas of interest.

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    That's Norwegian frigate Helge Ingstad and Danish Frigate Esbern Snare escorting Norwegian cargo vessel "Taiko," which transported Syrian chemical weapons and machinery to their disposal sights.

    Russia, China and the UK also took part in the removal of chemical weapons, supplies and machinery from Syria. That Syria had a chemical stockpile was known, not a ruse or fabrication. That it fully relinquished these weapons, machinery and supplies was not confirmed and that, plus the continued use of chemical weapons in Syria, caused enough concern in the US military to warrant additional scrutiny.

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    The US likely know where Syria was storing chemical weapons. Tracking aircraft flying out of certain areas and to other areas, it could corroborate its intelligence with media reports and work out what happened. That's basic battlefield forensics.
     
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    Sorry you are not convincing enough. The terrain map need to be downloaded and it take 48 hours and strike come with in 24 hours after the attack. So USA either did the chemical attacks or USA knew about the Chemical attacks were going to take place and was ready to blame it on Syria.

    Now USA is saying that the Chemical attacks might have been carried out by Russia and USA is investigating. So USA attacked Syria without the confirmation or evidence and helped ISIS. Please be realistic. Don't give me propaganda to me.
     
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    Are we going back to the future here? how many megabyte do u think it is. I dont know the answer. Lets say it is 5 gigabyte. I will guess they are able downloade it less than a min.
     
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    This attack was just for show,what did those Tomahawks hit,some hangars with old fighterjets?
    The take off and landing strip was still intact.
    Im sure Putin knew about this attack before hand from his buddy Trump.
    Im not buying this so called ''attack''.
     
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    It is not about data size. It is about programing and where did trump got the terrain map if USA had no prior plans to attack the Air base. Cruise missile launched in 24 hours means that the data was obtained many days before the strikes and flight plan was programmed prior to the Chemical attacks.
     
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    Maybe i misunderstand still. But i will use comon sense here. Like kat say they overwatch Syria 24/7 that means they have drone and satellite pluss intell on the ground. The software is easy to use. pin point where u want to attac uppload the info to the tomahawk and off they go. I belive this can go very fast.
     
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    @Bharwana And one more ting..even if you dont 100% sure if u going to attac you can make a plan where u want to attac monts a head. The ppl who works on this have been watching for years. And they know allot about Syria
     
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    I would agree with you but still the radar positions on ground change constantly as Syria is a war zone and it still requires 48 hours of programming to update those missiles with current data unless you are monitoring the Airbase 24/7 and constantly updating the missiles to the latest data as soon as Syrian or Russian forces change the position of RADARs.
     
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    @Bharwana Ah ok you have more knowledge than me. I still dont understand why it takes 48 hourers lock in the targets coordination on some tomahawks. I would never use those missile if that would be the case. Is there someting ur missing. The tech goas very fast these days. Just for the record u dont need wire conection to the software on the tomahawks. And u can easy shange the chip inside too.
     
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