India and US sign the LEMOA

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    The United States and India signed the LEMOA (Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement) on Monday to allow the use of each other’s land, air and naval bases for repair and resupply. The agreement is seen as a step by some towards building defense ties as both India and the USA seek to counter the growing maritime assertiveness of China.

    The agreement, a relatively mundane one concerning day-to-day military logistics, is nonetheless a milestone in the US-India defence relationship because of the outsized political importance it had taken on in India, where it had touched on domestic sensitivities, experts said.



    LEMOA Makes Joint Millitary Exercises Easier
    The signing of the agreement will “make the logistics of joint operations so much easier and so much more efficient,” US Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in a news briefing with Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Monday.

    The agreement will allow the Indian and US navies to have an easier time supporting each other in joint operations and exercises and when providing humanitarian assistance, Parrikar said.

    Both Carter and Parrikar went to pains on Monday to make clear that the logistics agreement did not allow for basing of US troops in India.

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    Two other pacts that would allow for secure communications and the exchange of nautical and other data. The agreements are considered routine between the United States and its other defense partners.

    India has had concerns over a logistics agreement would commit it to hosting US troops at its bases, or draw it into a military alliance with the United States and undermine its traditional autonomy.

    Carter and Parrikar reached an agreement “in principle” in April, but had yet to finalize the details.

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    LEMOA: At the bedrock of the deal lies concerns of being seen as a close US military ally

    It has been 12 years in the coming, but it has finally seen the light of the day. The military logistics agreement, called the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), was signed between India and the US on Monday in Washington, in the presence of visiting defence minister, Manohar Parrikar and US secretary of defence, Ashton Carter.

    The name of the agreement tells a story by itself. The usual military logistics agreement signed by the US with other countries is called the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA). It has a standard draft text, which the Americans expected the Indians to sign on. During the era of the UPA government, India just wasn’t keen to sign the pact. But even when the BJP government came to power in Delhi, cognisant of the opposition’s criticism of allying with the US, the defence ministry negotiated hard over the text of the agreement. The modified LSA text, which takes care of these concerns, is called the LEMOA.

    That these concerns of being seen as a too close a US military ally are still at the top of the mind of the government, is reflected in the statement on the signing of the LEMOA issued by the defence ministry. It asserts that “the Agreement does not create any obligations on either Party to carry out any joint activity. It does not provide for the establishment of any bases or basing arrangements.”

    When the discussions to sign the logistics pact started in 2002, it was one of the four ‘foundational pacts’ that the US wanted India to sign. The three others are an End User Verification Agreement (which the US and India had already signed), a Communications Interoperability & Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA) and the Basic Exchange & Cooperation Agreement on geo-spatial services (BECA).

    In his press conference at Washington, Parrikar refused to commit about the two pending pacts. He reminded the American journalists that inking of the LEMOA itself has taken 12 years, and he would like to first put out its details in the public domain for discussion. In a sense, Parrikar knows that the logistics agreement was the easiest of the three because even the defence services – and not the opposition parties alone – have expressed serious reservations about CISMOA and BECA.

    Onward to negotiations for another 12 years then. Who knows? Only time will tell.
     
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    Just so we're clear, and because I've seen this misrepresented other places, this does not allow India access to overseas NATO facilities or logistics, but non-NATO supply and replenishment facilities that the US uses.

    The later would be something like the USMC's supply base at Frigård in Trondelag.

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    The US funds and helps to maintain and staff the facility, and even other branches beyond just the USMC use it, but it's on our soil and unless we like you, you don't have access to it, no matter this agreement.

    This LEMOA agreement coves bases in each nation, the US and India, and bases in third parties with the approval of that nation, like US facilities in Japan or Australia, who aren't unlikely to say no to India.
     
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    Collaborating with enemy against your very own Armstrong and his Kingdom of Armstrongville ? :eek:

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    Thanks for clarifying that, good job bringing up Japan and Australia. Whats interesting is that back in June Japan and India both agreed to boost defense cooperation with the US, my guess is that this deal was discussed and maybe even access to Japanese basis was given.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ree-way-defense-cooperation-u-s/#.V8Y2NGUWxw8

    Modi and Abe are two tough guys when it comes to China, in a time where China is becoming more and more aggressive its good to have them on our side. Obama isn't a push over either when it comes to East Asia, he is as cut throat as any of the other characters playing the game. :D

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    Yes. This agreement does not concern NATO bases. India will need individual agreements with countries where US bases are already present.

    The agreement also allows either country to refuse access and supplies if it believes it is not in its own interests. For e.g, if there is any operation against Iran, Indian bases will not be made available. Same goes for operations against Russian interests.

    In the short run, it will increase and ease joint training between the two countries. In the long run, we are all dead - Keynes.

    I would not read too much into this agreement. Except that, we are seeing increased levels of trust between the 2 countries.
     
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    IN is also present for surveillance in Madagascar, Maldives and Mauritius. A base is being currently prepared in Seychelles with an airfield and docking for naval ships.
     
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    The India-China problem is the easiest to solve for China. There are only 2 countries involved. Neither is going to allow the UN into it. Both are armed to the teeth and nuclear capable.

    As of date, the border issue can be solved in months, by converting the McMohan line into the recognised international border by both sides. This will ensure, China has zero problems on their complete western flank. India has not interest in attacking China. We are interested in increasing our trade and improving the lives of our citizens. Neither are we interested in formenting trouble in the South China Sea.

    If the border issue is solved, China will then have access to both Kolkata and all the ports on the Indian western front. Immediate access to the rail and road network. A market which is almost as big as the Chinese market for Chinese companies.

    But, the longer the border problem festers more the co-operation between the US, Japan and India.
     
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    This agreement is not aimed at Pakistan. Not in the least bit. And I find it difficult to believe that India will let its bases be used against Pakistan. The more Pakistan destabilises, the bigger problems we have dealing with the loonies to your western flank. Like I have always believed, the PA is India's first line of defence against the loony arabs.
     
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