India cautions Russia and Iran against engaging with Taliban

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    India cautions Russia and Iran against engaging with Taliban
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    • India warned Russia and Iran against engaging Taliban politically.
    • Russia says it regards Taliban as a "national military-political movement".
    • Iran has been reaching out to Taliban, with the aim of keeping IS out of Afghan region.
     
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    Nothing personal. We just don't want pro-american (and anti-eurasian) goverment in Kabul. And we will change it on other, more loyal. Who it will be - I dunno. It is just opening of competition. If you have some good pro-Indian candidates - just say about it. I'm sure, that pro-Indian goverment of Afgan will be as good to Russia, as pro-Russian will be good to India. We are strategic allies, you know. And meta-strategy of fight with terrorism in Afgan will be same. "To remove crocodiles, you need to dry swamp. To remove mountain-barbarians you need to build roads, bridges, tonnels, improving transport integrity."
    And, speaking about Talibs, they, as I know, did not destroy graveyards and monuments of Russian soldiers.
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    They are much more civilised that Baltics, Poles and Germans. They (Talibs) have honor, we can work with them.
     
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    Actually, matter is crossing of our interests with each other man.

    ISIS is a threat to Russia, Taliban to India and India has no interest in creating trouble for itself.

    We already aid Syria and support Asad government.
     
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    Show us pro-Indian leaders or groups, and we shall think about their candudatures, say us about your interest in Afgan - and we shall think about them. "Radical Islam" will not be threat after 2030-2040 years, and our partnership is for centuries.
    Taliban is just a proxy-army of Pakistan, and if we shall improve relationships between Russia, India, China, Pakistan (as parts of future Eurasion Union) Taliban will not be a treat for India.
     
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    Buddy, try to understand. Same Taliban had been proved to lethal to USSR in Afghanistan when they used to be on US side. And then, US itself was bitten.

    Terrorists can't be trusted, they change their mind easily, India's nervousness is valid because Taliban is in our neighborhood and we will probably be first target.

    "Relations" with Pakistan? If they were so serious about relations, our country wouldn't have been broken to make Pakistan.
    They are apart from us now, they live we don't give a bloody damn, they suffer we don't give a bloody damn, they die we don't give a bloody damn.
     
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    Sure. Of course, we can not trust to Taliban, also we can't trust to NATO, or some other countries. We know it and continue working with caution. Anyway, we are working with humans, and if they will be loyal and competent - why not? Of course, after rebrending.

    Why you are not nervouz with current - anti-Eurasion (and anti-Indian, too) and uncompetent goverment?

    In this moment "your country" was controlled from London, and was a part of British Empire. Brits were bad as for Myslims, as for Indians. May be, you (both of you) will want to be part of Eurasian Union.

    Yes. May be, you need a good mediator? As said our American "patners" - "Money talks, bullshit walks". We were such mediators in 1965, and we can be it in future.
     
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    Russian ambassador to Turkey has recently been shot dead by these "humans".
    Incompetent? Anti Indian?
    BJP even wins election for the sake of nationalism and I dare to show that this party who controlled India only for 8 years, what it has brought, reforms, policy shifts and far fetched eyes that following party drove itself by taking credit of BJP's work for years.

    Anti Eurasian? BJP may become anti world, I will vote them! Indian interests must be served first. I know some guys get emotionally obsessed with "Pan Asianism", "Asian Century" or "Eurasia" etc. (for small countries, I never expected this from the great nation of Russia :(), so f*ck Asia, f*ck the world. Put your country at top and be selfish.
    http://thediplomat.com/2016/11/the-myth-of-indias-non-aligned-boycott/
    Muslim? Eh..
    They don't even respect Indian National Emblems, call the national anthem haram and always march for extra constitutional rights.
    Sharia Law, Triple Talaq, Islamic banking, keeping five wives,

    Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Jew, everyone is okay with secular law, secular education, only Muslims are having problems.

    British? It's difficult to see such small and week countries on map.
    A Navy falling short of AShMs, what threat it can pose to us?

    We are largest investor in UK, we score large surplus with UK, UK's economies' considerable share depends upon India being transit route for Indian Companies, we have bought out and dislocated their industries.

    Our companies provide them jobs, give them salary by which they are able to buy out internet and doing their favourite national pass time, [India bashing on Internet:D] and become offline when Indian Economy once again has overtaken UK after 200 years.


    Sorry for being aggressive. Was in argument some dumb and ignorant britisher.
    Exclude us. We are happy being Indians.
    The mediator actually seized us from occupying Lahore!


    BTW, if you are afraid that India may be pulled up in US block, please don't.
    India won't. From Cold War Era, we have balanced ourselves well and we will continue.
    India's warmth towards USA is only temporary, for one of two decades only till India itself can emerge as a pole.
     
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    Do you really think, that killer was Talib?

    Sorry, bro. I don't want say something bad about your goverment. I said about Afgan goverment. Do you want new secular goverment in Afgan?
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    Ok. Now problem.

    It is your choise.
    Ok.
     
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    He was an Islamist and all of them are alike. Their ways, Sunni, Salafi or whichever way, they have only to kill humans.
    Today, you help them, tomorrow they will demand more. They will start hating you for not giving money.

    Russia's objective is to stop ISIS. What will Taliban do after ISIS is collapsed? Obviously, got a status of a state and substantial area under control, it's other ISIS. After Central Asia and Mid East, Russia will surely intervene in Southern Asia to open more trade routes. Neither Taliban will it pass, nor main suppliers India and Iran will ever accept route through Taliban, and Afghanistan? No chance.
    No, I want, but as per my experience with Muslims here in India, it won't be easy to implement such a system in Afghanistan. Further, Afghanistan is far more backward, in fact LDC society. Though, transit economy of Afghanistan has enormous potential without Taliban.
    Let's bring some awareness in their society otherwise today you go.there for it, they will swipe a knife through your neck.:p
    I'm again telling you, be Russian first and forget this brotherhood bull$hit.
    Not choice, I'm betting that India won't take either side, neither NATO nor Russia-China.:D
     
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    It is same thing that say: "Both Pandavs and Cauravs were Pagans and all of them are alike". Islam is misconception, but there many misconceptions in the world - Communism, Capitalism, Progressism, Liberalism, Atheism, Solipsism, etc. We are humans, our brains are weak, and all what we know - that we know nothing. Islamism is an illness, caused by misconception (but not with only it). But we can cure illnesses. "What is not cured by word - had to be cured with drugs. What is not cured with drug - had to be cured with iron. What is not cured with iron - had to be cured with fire."

    Sunni are different. Salafi (at least their preachers and Saudi King family) - should be exterminated, imho.


    Ha! Give them money for the work not just as help. Money without work is a cause of degradation, independently from religion (look, for example, on modern USA, their welfare-getting groups and their degradation.)

    Burn poppy fields, blast opium factories and kill narkoproductioners.

    Sure. But building of trade routs is not game with null-summ. All of us will get money.

    Good continental trade routs are good for all continental powers, but bad of sea powers. So, any proamerican goverment will be against building of roads, bridges and tunnels.

    First of all, you can covert them in the Atheists, Christians or Induists.

    And what can you say about rebrendering?

    Ha! It is a last mistake of Islamists - they come with knives on a shootout. We are already has kill more that 35 thousands of Islamists in Syria, and it will not be a problem to kill much more.

    Ha. To be Russian means to think about "brotherhood". Russia is a large country mostly without of natural barriers on the boards. We have many potentially agressive neighbours, and we must to understand them. But thinking about eurasian integration is a question of money and security, not of abstract "brotherhood".

    If you want to be independent - you are enemies of globalists. If you are enemies of globalists - you are our allies.
     
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