MMRCA - Rafale and beyond

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  1. surya kiran

    surya kiran 2nd Lieutenant

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    For updates on the Rafale project. Guessing this thread will be the favourite of @Parikrama
     
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    First comment in as quickly the thread started..

    Will initiate the roller coaster ride for all..

    It's going to be a thriller..

    Who will be the champion of the champions.

    mother of all deals..

    Contenders
    1. France Dassault Rafale
    2. USA Lockheed Martin F16 block 70/72 or even a new block say 80
    3. USA Boeing F18 ASH/SH
    4 Sweden SAAB Gripen NG

    fan favourites
    1. Russian Mig 35
    2. Euro EF Typhoon

    Fanboy favourite
    1. USA Lockheed Martin F35
    2. USA Boeing F18 Growlers

    Fantasy favourite
    1. USA Lockheed Martin F22 E or export

    Will post all the latest new and old stories and take you all in mind numbing ride..

    Now with Make In India plans and addition of orders from IAF and IN, who is going to get the most..

    All the action .. this season and many more season to follow..

    Coming soon...
     
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    What are the two tenders I keep seeing? One is the MMCRA, for which the Rafale is said to be close to capturing:

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    But is there another tender ongoing in parallel to the MMCRA?
     
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    Well original MMRCA is canceled

    There are two parts to the deal
    Rafale is suppose to be having off the shelf purchase plus a manufacturing line in India under Make In India program for a much larger order. This is almost certain and done part to be announced soon.

    The second is the scope of another jet manufacturing line under Make in India to address the rapid declining numbers and need of replacement within a short time frame. This has contenders like F16, F18 and Gripen.
    Besides the big names, there is a concept called Light Stealth Aircraft which is also on table for approval and can potential outsmart LM, Boeing and Saab. This LSA concept is by an Ex Indian Navy Sea Harrier pilot who had presented this to MOD. He is present in another forum and has detailed it with limited but good information for public. He had also tied up Indian Pvt sector plus Israel who is interested to buy 100+ orders.

    Interestingly LSA single engine option is EJ230 but design flexibility allows it to be twin engine version as well. the maker wants to use Rafale offset investments into Kaveri Engine program and use HTFE35 as twin engine usage.

    In his words, If Safran deal for Kaveri works out there is 75% chance LSA will be approved and it will be replace LCA Mk2 program.

    In simple words indigenous LSA as second Make in India line can outsmart the global majors like LM, Boeing and Saab.
     
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