NATO Invites Montenegro to Join the Alliance

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    Grumble, grumble Sweden and Finland should join NATO, grumble, grumble.

    Good for Montenegro, should it opt to join, bad for Georgia whose ascendance wasn't viable at this time, but is this good for NATO too? Montenegro doesn't bring a lot to the table other than new bases for NATO assets to use. Their Navy, Air force and Army are all using out-dated equipment.

    Their most modern aircraft? The Yugoslav era Soko G-4; they have 4 of them in storage:
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    7 Gazelles form their attack helicopter capabilities, 8 are in reserve:
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    How about their Navy? Two Kotor class frigates are active:
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    Other vessels like the Končar-class are small, coastal defense missile boats. Two are in storage:
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    They've no tanks nor IFVs and are dependent on weapons that haven't been produced since Yugoslavia was still a country. Their other equipment comes from Russia, a liability as Poland found out, and Serbia. They spend 1.3% of their GDP on their military, which comes out to around 37 million Euros.

    Good for Montenegro if they decide to join NATO, Russia wont bother them again, but they really don't bring much to the table apart from new bases.
     
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    "Russia quickly said it would be forced to react to NATO's expansion eastward, with the invitation to the small Balkan country adding to bad blood between Moscow and the West over a host of issues including Ukraine.
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    The Montenegrin government has accused Russia of being behind recent violent protests in order to prevent the country from joining NATO.

    Srdjan Milic, head of the opposition Popular Socialist Party which wants a referendum on the issue next year, said most people opposed NATO membership."

    http://news.yahoo.com/nato-invites-montenegro-join-alliance-stoltenberg-075330497.html
     
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    Perciesly the reason they should join NATO. Who's to say that if Montenegro didn't join NATO that Russia would stop its behaviors? I suspect that with NATO ascension off-the-table, Russia would only act more-so in Montenegro to create a Donbass/Transnistria type of scenario to further destabilize the nation and make NATO membership a permanent non-reality, like in both Georgia and Ukraine who've active conflicts, which solving is a prerequisite for NATO membership. With a "frozen conflict", orchestrated by Russia, as seen in Georgia and Ukraine, Montenegro, as per the rule of NATO expansion, could not be accepted into the alliance.

    So not joining NATO sets up Montenegro for further Russian prodding while joining prevents Russia for interfering due to NATO deterrence effect.

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    Assuming Montenegro joins NATO which previously invited into the Membership Action Plan in 2009 - a system that prepares nations for NATO membership - Macedonia, Albania and Croatia (both achieved full membership), Bosnia and Herzegovina and also Georgia and Ukraine(Ukraine withdrew its application in 2010), what do they do with their 40 Million USD budget to replace their 1980's era Soviet/Yugoslav hardware?

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    Being a sea-opening nation, they need something to protect their shores, but they don't have the budget for much, even light-weigh frigates, or second hand US cutters (if any where left for export to Montenegro) would still be too expensive on a 40 million USD budget.

    To compensate for a lack of a qualitative navy, in the face of a superior, but hampered geographically (by Turkey and the Bosporus and NATO nations including Italy and Greece in the Adriatic Sea) Russia fleet, Montenegro doesn't actually need a navy, just something to contribute and harass Russia with.

    Long-ranged anti-ship missiles like NSM:
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    Special operations craft like CB-90:
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    And light combat aircraft:
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    Can all provide a cost-effective, but still noticeable force that can augment the larger, more fiscally capable NATO members. Montenegro doesn't need a large force, even tanks make little sense give their geographic location, but with a sea and airspace open to Russia's navy, they can't neglect this avenue.

    Thoughts? What direction do people here think Montenegro should take its 40 million US dollar budget?
     
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    They could go for anti ship missiles as you stated. There is no point of pursuing jets if you can only buy a couple. They could go for something like the Super Tucano, get a few armed versions and some for recon, these could be used to crush an insurgency. Their ground forces should be able to deal with riots and insurgencies as they don't really have a chance against a standing army. ATGM's and MANPADS should be acquired to hold off an invading country until the international community intervenes.

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