Turkey Downs Russian SU-24 near Syria

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  1. Atilla

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    A Russian Air Force Su-24 was domed by a Turkish Air Force F-16 over Turkish Air Space near the Syrian border. The Russian Pilot ejected but was later found dead by FSA Turkmen rebels.

    http://m.milliyet.com.tr/yerel-kaynaklar-pilotlardan-biri-gundem-2152740/

    The pink line is the flight path of the Russian plane. After not heeding to warnings to exit Turkish air space the plane was downed.

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    Approximately one month ago a Russian drone was brought down by the Turkish Air Force after violating Turkish air space.

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    Nice analysis, I put it on social media. Hopefully things don't escalate. NATO will hold a special meeting on the issue.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International...ing-tuesday-brussels-downing-russian-35386964
     
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    Russian jets violated Turkish air space back in October and had Turkish planes on radar lock before. The Russians got what was coming.

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    Russia pushed it too far. Violating foreign airspace once might be forgivable, violating it multiple times like Russia has done the past few months is simply unacceptable, and they payed the price.
     
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    NATO statement on todays event:

     
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    I guess,Russia needed a reminder not to mess with the wrong country.
    1) Multiple violations of the airspace of a sovereign country.
    2) Bombing the Turkmens of Syria,despite several warnings not to do so,from Turkiye.
     
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    I found the full agreement in english regarding the state of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits. Take careful note of articles 20 & 21. Apparently Turkey can block the use of the straits by any country it feels threatened by. This would imply that if Turkey felt "threatened" by Russia then it could block its ships from transiting the Turkish straits in effect impairing Russia's ability to conduct military operations in Syria. Sure they can go through East Asia, the Indian ocean, then through the Suez but that would cost them way more $$$$ and it would take longer to resupply their forces. Another option is for them to go through Denmark, then the atlantic through the straits of Gibraltar and on to Syria. Again very costly. They could also take the North Pole route but only in the warmer months if I am not mistaken. Conclusion? Russia may be militarily superior to Turkey overall but the Turks have geography on their side not to mention the already capable military they currently field .

    http://sam.baskent.edu.tr/belge/Montreux_ENG.pdf

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    Very interesting. It says that the league of nations can override Turkey's decision to block the straits with a two thirds majority vote. Is the U.N considered the current league of nations by that treaty? If it is who then in the U.N votes? The security council or general assembly?
     
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