Turkey Questions US Military Presence at Incirlik

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    Turkey questions U.S.-led coalition presence at Incirlik air base

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    ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish officials are questioning the presence of U.S.-led coalition forces at an air base in southern Turkey over what they see as insufficient support for Turkey's military operations against Islamic State in Syria.

    President Tayyip Erdogan's spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said on Thursday there was no need for a "rushed evaluation" on Incirlik, a base used by NATO allies to launch air strikes against Islamic State in neighboring Syria.

    But he questioned why the United States, which backs some Kurdish groups against Islamic State in northern Syria, had not lent support to NATO ally Turkey's latest push to take the Syrian town of al-Bab back from the jihadists.

    "In the past month-and-a-half, we have seen and understood that this support was not given at the sufficient level and effectiveness," Kalin told broadcaster Kanal 24, calling for full support and saying "excuses are not acceptable".

    Turkey has been angered by U.S. policy in Syria, not least by Washington's support for Kurdish militia fighters it sees as an extension of PKK militants fighting within Turkey, a group the U.S. and Ankara both classify as a terrorist organization.

    More here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/turks-questioning-u-led-coalition-presence-air-deputy-094555750.html
     
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    rebels Turkey backed threaten US special forces so that caused US to withdraw their aid to Turkey's operation against the IS. Turkey then negotiated with Russia to partially support their op in Al-Bab, which we have done some airstrikes destroying a number of IS strongholds but it was only to support their army not the rebels they are using in their op. Turkey needs to be careful who they irritate or no one will support them.
     
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    No,thats not it.
    Turkiye threatened the US backed YPG/SDF,thats why the US refused to do airstrikes against ISIS,their plan is to create a Kurdish area from the Iraqi border all the way to the Mediterranian Sea.
    Turkiye doesnt need support from anyone,we have our own Airforce but the government likes having ''allies'',thats why the ''call'' for help from ''allies'' and ''friends''.
     
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    my bad i was just commenting what i have heard and does get confusing, but there is no denying that you guys have taken advantage of our airstrikes in the area whether you asked for the help or not. Turkey, in my opinion does need a country to back them in Al-Bab whether it be us or NATO to cut the loses of your forces in that area.
     
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    Turkey didn't like America's Kurdish Corridor plan, the US was publicly on board when Turkey went to clear ISIL from its border and they even provided some special forces to coordinate their own air strikes but after Turkey continued advancing with the objective of eliminating the PKK terror corridor on its southern border the US stopped all support.

    Incirlik AFB is being used to launch air strikes against ISIL in Syria but in a manner that aids the YPG rather than the opposition. The air base is also used to drop to the YPG. Turkey defines the YPG as a terrorist group. It doesn't make sense to allow a country to use your territory to provide weapons to a terrorist group that you are fighting. Turkey gains nothing when the YPG takes territory from ISIL, similarly it gains nothing at this point when ISIL takes territory from the YPG as both are hostile.

    The incirlik comments are more directed towards Turkey's internal audience and the Trump administration that is pro Northern Syrian no fly zone. On top of that Turkey wouldn't mind cutting its costs by allowing the US to do some air strikes on its behalf. Turkey has been bombing targets inside its own country and in Syria-Iraq theater for a long time, the costs naturally mount.

    Russian air strikes around Al-Bab are simply symbolic and so was the Turkish statement that Russia could use Incirlik. These are to show the US that they are replaceable if they continue to irk the Turkish government. The Turkish government is also getting back at the US over the coup.

    Turkey can continue its operations in Syria without any help, Turkey is perfectly capable of doing this, the only issue is the civilian population in Al-Bab which is making it take longer. They could easily flatten the city and take it calling it an accomplishment but this war for Turkey is not about grabbing land, it's about winning the local population and the trust of regional sunnis as their only real ally unlike the Saudis or other gulf Arabs who are not willing to do much for the average poor Arab.
     
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    Well,Erdogan asked Putin for help first to bomb the al-Bab area,after that he asked the ''coalition'' to see if he was right about its answer.
    The back-up is Russia,Erdogan doesnt trust the ''coalition'',neither do i.
     
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    Symbolic or not,Erdogan sent his message to the ''coalition''.
     
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    Lets see if Trump stands with his ally.
     
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    You know, what kind of allies are Yanks.
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    We should't trust anybody but still cooperate with all, right now Incirlik is leverage against the US. In general we should stay quite and build ourselves up, unfortunately in Syria we had to go in but thats ok.

    Russia is still not a friend and will never become a real friend, if the US slowly changes its middle east policy they can become a friend again but they think the same about us.

    This one of my concerns with Trump, he could turnout very good for us but very bad aswell, I predict that he will not get along with Putin down the road.

    But seriously no one is getting Istanbul.
     
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