USS Nimitz Fifth Carrier Armed with Anti-Torpedo Weapon

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  1. AMDR

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    USS Nimitz Fifth Carrier Armed with Anti-Torpedo Weapon

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    By RICHARD R. BURGESS, Managing Editor

    ARLINGTON, Va. — When the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz emerged from an extended period in a shipyard last week, it featured a new installation of an anti-torpedo system.

    Nimitz is the Navy’s fifth carrier to have the Anti-Torpedo-Defense System installed. The system includes the Torpedo Warning System, an acoustic sensor that detects an incoming torpedo; a tactical control station; and the Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo (CAT). The CAT, a small torpedo designed to intercept an incoming torpedo, was developed by Pennsylvania State University’s Applied Research Lab.

    More at: http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20161011-torpedo.html
     
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    Can this "antitorpedo" intercept "Shkval" supercavitating torpedo with nuclear warhead?
     
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    Probably not, but then Shkval isn't widely considered a threat due to its extremely limited range of less then 5nmi. CAT was designed to deal with Wake Homing torpedoes, which Russia and China uses in abundance. The Type 53 is one such weapon:

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    To engage a carrier, a submarine armed with Shkval would first need to get passed the rest of the flotilla, which is well armed to find such threats:

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    What we don't see is the "picket" of the Carrier Task Group, the LA or Virginia class submarine assigned to them:

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    Their sub-surface armament is the MK48 heavy weight torpedo, which is comparatively slow compared to Shkval with a maximum speed of roughly 55 kn, depending on the range needed, but who's range dwarfs Shkval by nearly 10-1, which a maximum of 50km:

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    It'd be hard to get in range to launch a Shkval, but if you happen to be, it's almost impossible to stop given its speed which limits reaction time. A guided, maneuverable variant was said to be in development as well, but it too suffers from range limitations due to its rocket propulsion - being limited to around 15km max.

    A torpedo like USET-80 or UGST is conserved a more capable weapon then Shkval given their range, intelligence and ability to discriminiate between targets, decoys and pick a plan of attack that ensure the best possible chances of success. Shkval is point and shoot and hope you hit something. It's more a bullet where as UGST is a akin to a guided missile:

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    It's almost not even worth discussing honestly. Using nuclear weapons against the US, France or the UK, tactical or strategic, would invite a retaliatory attack that would quickly escalate even more.

    Neither side is stupid enough to do that. In fact the US has even retired its nuclear armed torpedoes, with the last MK45 retired in 1976. Their nuclear armament, an 11 kiloton W34 warhead was removed and replaced with a conventional explosive charge. The torpedoes were then resold to allied nations as the Mark 45 Mod 1 Freedom... yup, that was its name.

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    Nuclear weapons make for a good deterrent against direct military confrontation, though as India and Pakistan can tell you does increase the probability of proxy conflict, but they are poor weapons if actually used, especially if the other side is nuclear armed too.
     
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    Really? There are many stories about subs closing with NATO carriers. If you can predict her's movements you can make a good ambush.



    Of course. There are funny moment in Westies imagination about future war. They are usually begin modeling from diplomatic mumble, and finished by exchange of strategic nuclear striks. When I speak about war, its begins with exchange of nuclear strikes and finish with capturing of Washington and delimitation of Canada-Mexican border.

    Really? Watch "Vox populi" (english subtitles aviable)


    Really? We can see behavior of NATO politics and militaries. It's look like they really want to die.
     
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    Oh but it's a fun discussion and fun to gather outside perspectives, as YarS offers from a Russian standpoint (though either side hardly agrees with the other on most points given our own unique take).

    Speaking of nuclear arms, did you (or the rest of AMF) know that Sandefjord Airport, Torp was once modified with hardened munitions storage facilities to receive nuclear weapons in the event of a war?

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    It's unclear if the facilities currently exist, but local pressure forced the airport to stop servicing military aircraft in the late 1960s. The arsenal was staffed by American workers, as their weapons were hosted, as is true for all NATO nuclear weapons sharing nations including Turkey and the Netherlands.

    Torp is roughly 7.5km Northeast of Sandefjord city.
     
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