Why so heavy and why so expensive and why all of the time?

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  1. Pathfinder

    Pathfinder Lieutenant Colonel

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    Based on my observation the trend in the Army over the past couple of decades has been to acquire, large, heavy, and expensive vehicles of all types. Whether its the Humvee, Bradley, or the massive MRAPS that served in Afghanistan the Army continues the trend of big, bulky, and heavy. These vehicles definitely have their place and role in the military but their lack of tactical and sometimes strategic mobility can hamper our overall military capability. By ignoring lighter armored or un armored vehicles I think we are missing a lot of opportunities to cut costs but also to increase the effectiveness of our forces.

    To get my point across let me show some great vehicles that the Army would never buy:







    Another quick point/question. Why are we buying 55,000 JLTV's? Isn't that way more then what we need? Why can't we buy 20,000 JLTVS and replace the remaining Humvee with some kind of smaller 4x4. Something like what the Europeans use like the Mercedes Wolf or something. Maybe Ford F-250's just how some rich Arab gulf states do. Why spend over 100,000 for a jeep when we are buying them in the 10's of thousands?
     

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    Cossack25A1 1st Lieutenant

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    My guess is that some think that big vehicles are basically "bigger is better".
     
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    Osmanovic 1st Lieutenant

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    You know what they say about guys with big vehicles. :D

    Some of these big vehicles have their uses like the bradley and the HUMVEE that can accept heavy armor packages and can cross all sorts of terrain. Even the Chinese have copied the HUMVEE design:

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    In general I think military vehicles should get lighter as we progress into the future rather than become heavier. I think unmanned systems will help us achieve this but for now a lot of things are going to be big and bulky. You have to give the Army credit for the Stryker though, its air mobile, now heavily armed, and there are many different variants that serve many different roles.
     
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    Cossack25A1 1st Lieutenant

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    Wasn't the Future Combat System's manned vehicles were designed to be lightweight and air transportable?

    Aside from the pricetag, why was it cancelled?
     
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    Bob Hunter 45 2nd Lieutenant

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    transport must be protected from the explosion of mines.
     
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